Intel Core i7-1365U vs AMD Ryzen 3 2200U vs AMD Ryzen 7 2700U
Intel Core i7-1365U ► remove from comparison
The Intel Core i7-1365U is a high-end mobile CPU for thin and light laptops based on the Alder Lake architecture (Raptor Lake-U / RPL-U series). It was announced in early 2023 and offers 2 performance cores (P-cores, Golden Cove architecture) and 8 efficient cores (E-cores, Gracemont architecture). The P-cores support Hyper-Threading leading to 12 supported threads when combined with the E-cores. The clock rate ranges from 1.8 to 5.2 GHz on the performance cluster and 1.3 to 3.9 GHz on the efficient cluster. The performance of the E-cores should be similar to old Skylake cores (compare to the Core i7-6700HQ ). All cores can use up to 12 MB L3 cache. The CPU supports all "Enterprise" vPro management features. Compared to the P-series (28W) or H-series (45W), the 15W TDP may limit the sustained performance.
Performance
Thanks to the high clock speed, the Core i7-1365U should perform slightly better than the older core i7-1265U (up to 4.8 GHz).
Architecture
The integrated memory controller supports various memory types up to LPDDR5-6400. The Thread Director (in hardware) can support the operating system to decide which thread to use on the performance or efficient cores for the best performance. For AI tasks, the CPU also integrates GNA 3.0 and DL Boost (via AVX2). Quick Sync in version 8 is the same as in the Rocket Lake CPUs and supports MPEG-2, AVC, VC-1 decode, JPEG, VP8 decode, VP9, HEVC, and AV1 decode in hardware. The CPU still only supports PCIe 4.0 x8 for a GPU and two PCIe 4.0 x4 for SSDs.
The integrated graphics card is based on the Xe-architecture and offers all 96 EUs (Execution Units) operating at up to 1.3 GHz.
Power consumption
This Core i7 CPU is rated at a TDP of 15W (base power, PL1) and a maximum turbo power of 55W (PL2). The RPL-U processors are built in a further improved Intel 7 process (10nm SuperFin) that allows higher clock rates.
AMD Ryzen 3 2200U ► remove from comparison
The AMD Ryzen 3 2200U is a mobile APU for thin and light laptops that was announced in October 2017. It includes two Zen cores clocked at 2.5 to 3.4 GHz and offers SMT (four threads at once) and 4 MB L3-Cache. The integrated graphics card is called Radeon RX Vega 3 and offers only 3 CUs (192 Shaders) clocked at up to 1000 MHz. The TDP is configurable between 12 and 25 Watt (15 Watt nominal).
More information on Raven Ridge can be found in our launch article.
AMD Ryzen 7 2700U ► remove from comparison
The AMD Ryzen 7 2700U is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2017. It combines four Zen cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 10 graphics card with 10 CUs (640 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. The TDP can be configured by the laptop manufacturer between 12 to 25 Watt (15 Watt nominal) and therefore the APU is also suited for thin and light laptops. The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. More information on Raven Ridge can be found in our launch article.
The performance of the Zen CPU cores should be better than a high end Kaby-Lake-Refresh Quad-Core CPU (e.g. the Core i7-8650U ) according to AMD. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 2700U is suited for all applications.
Model Intel Core i7-1365U AMD Ryzen 3 2200U AMD Ryzen 7 2700U Series Intel Raptor Lake-U AMD Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000 APU) AMD Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000 APU) Codename Raptor Lake-U Zen Zen Series: Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000 APU) Zen Clock 1300 - 5200 MHz 2500 - 3400 MHz 2200 - 3800 MHz L1 Cache 928 KB 192 KB 384 KB L2 Cache 9.5 MB 1 MB 2 MB L3 Cache 12 MB 4 MB 4 MB Cores / Threads 10 / 12 2 / 4 4 / 8 TDP 15 Watt 15 Watt 15 Watt Technology 10 nm 14 nm 14 nm max. Temp. 100 °C Socket BGA1700 AM4 AM4 Features Thread Director XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT iGPU Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs ( - 1300 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1000 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 ( - 1300 MHz)Architecture x86 x86 x86 Announced Manufacturer ark.intel.com Transistors 4500 Million 4500 Million
Benchmarks Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - i7-1365U
41 pt (57%)
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Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R7 2700U
26.5 pt (37%)
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Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 7532 avg: 8750 median: 8946 (8%) max: 9576 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 79% 89% 98% 100%
3603 Points (3%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 38% 79% 89% 98% 100%
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 1877 avg: 1886 median: 1887 (80%) max: 1891 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 100% 99% 100%
886 Points (38%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 47% 100% 100% 99% 100%
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
min: 703 avg: 724 median: 726.5 (81%) max: 741 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 95% 100% 99% 97%
min: 347 avg: 361.3 median: 356 (40%) max: 381 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 49% 95% 100% 99% 97%
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
min: 2902 avg: 3391 median: 3495.5 (9%) max: 3669 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 79% 91% 100% 100%
min: 1392 avg: 1439 median: 1422 (3%) max: 1504 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 39% 79% 91% 100% 100%
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 1348 avg: 1471 median: 1466.5 (9%) max: 1604 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 84% 89% 100% 94%
min: 275 avg: 311.8 median: 312 (2%) max: 348 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 19% 84% 89% 100% 94%
min: 546 avg: 640 median: 644 (4%) max: 719 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 35% 84% 89% 100% 94%
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 261 avg: 265 median: 265.5 (80%) max: 268 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 97% 98% 100% 100%
min: 105 avg: 116.8 median: 117 (35%) max: 128 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 44% 97% 98% 100% 100%
min: 134 avg: 141.9 median: 143.5 (43%) max: 150 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 51% 97% 98% 100% 100%
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 2.68 avg: 3 median: 3 (4%) max: 3.29 Points
min: 5.88 avg: 7 median: 7.5 (10%) max: 7.66 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 0.85 avg: 1.1 median: 1.1 (28%) max: 1.44 Points
min: 1.58 avg: 1.6 median: 1.6 (41%) max: 1.71 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 3729 avg: 3978 median: 3977.5 (24%) max: 4226 Points
min: 4379 avg: 4474 median: 4515 (27%) max: 4527 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 6745 avg: 7776 median: 7775.5 (6%) max: 8806 Points
min: 9812 avg: 13528 median: 13729 (10%) max: 17043 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
459.3 s (5%)
min: 268.1 avg: 269.1 median: 269.1 (3%) max: 270.1 s
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
14.3 s (3%)
min: 8.3 avg: 8.6 median: 8.6 (2%) max: 8.8 s
min: 1436 avg: 1545 median: 1545 (2%) max: 1654 Points
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 33476 avg: 38339 median: 39727 (23%) max: 40424 MIPS
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 83% 100% 97% 100%
17317 MIPS (10%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 43% 83% 100% 97% 100%
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 5722 avg: 5841 median: 5850.5 (70%) max: 5941 MIPS
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 98% 96% 100% 99%
3592 MIPS (43%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 60% 98% 96% 100% 99%
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
17.8 fps (6%)
36.4 fps (13%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
92 fps (21%)
128 fps (30%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 8.61 avg: 9.6 median: 9.8 (17%) max: 10.3 fps
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 84% 94% 96% 100%
4 fps (7%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 38% 84% 94% 96% 100%
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
min: 0.201 avg: 0.2 median: 0.2 (0%) max: 0.22 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
min: 0.285 avg: 0.3 median: 0.3 (6%) max: 0.355 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
min: 2 avg: 2.1 median: 2.1 (5%) max: 2.2 GB/s
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 660 avg: 727 median: 726.5 (9%) max: 796 Seconds
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 101% 101% 102%
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 373 avg: 395.3 median: 383 (3%) max: 430 Seconds
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W 100% 100% 100%
713 Seconds (5%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W 100% 102% 102% 103%
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.4504 avg: 0.5 median: 0.5 (10%) max: 0.4586 sec
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 100% 100% 100%
0.8 sec (18%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 109% 109% 109% 109%
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 3006 avg: 3387 median: 3386.5 (7%) max: 3767 Points
min: 5366 avg: 5838 median: 6072 (13%) max: 6076 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 12.96 avg: 13 median: 13 (3%) max: 13 s
11.8 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
min: 29.71 avg: 30.9 median: 30.9 (1%) max: 32 s
27.3 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 750 avg: 757 median: 756.5 (3%) max: 763 s
698 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
min: 9576 avg: 9917 median: 9916.5 (9%) max: 10257 Points
min: 19828 avg: 20243 median: 20242.5 (18%) max: 20657 Points
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 11465 avg: 12579 median: 12071.5 (33%) max: 14708 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 78% 86% 79% 100%
min: 2831 avg: 3344 median: 3327 (9%) max: 3873 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 23% 78% 86% 79% 100%
min: 3205 avg: 5438 median: 5445 (15%) max: 6952 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 34% 78% 86% 79% 100%
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
43616 Points (35%)
min: 33097 avg: 33808 median: 33808 (27%) max: 34519 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
43415 Points (35%)
33326 Points (27%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 36120 avg: 42472 median: 42471.5 (36%) max: 48823 Points
min: 27944 avg: 29171 median: 28356.5 (24%) max: 32027 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
10387 Points (26%)
min: 2206 avg: 2687 median: 2716 (7%) max: 3140 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 23 W 26% 100%
min: 4058 avg: 5240 median: 5232 (13%) max: 7076 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 23 W 44% 100%
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 15179 avg: 16981 median: 17182 (31%) max: 18379 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 83% 91% 96% 100%
min: 4073 avg: 4412 median: 4571 (8%) max: 4591 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 24% 83% 91% 96% 100%
min: 6059 avg: 8060 median: 7851 (14%) max: 9911 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 39% 83% 91% 96% 100%
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 5497 avg: 6435 median: 6438.5 (27%) max: 7364 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 75% 78% 100% 97%
1310 Points (6%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 18% 75% 78% 100% 97%
min: 2750 avg: 2868 median: 2868 (12%) max: 2986 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 32% 75% 78% 100% 97%
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Single-Core
2583 Points (70%)
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Multi-Core
9605 Points (38%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1841 avg: 1884 median: 1878.5 (79%) max: 1938 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 98% 96% 100% 95%
667 Points (28%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 34% 98% 96% 100% 95%
813 Points (34%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 38% 98% 96% 100% 95%
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 8272 avg: 8565 median: 8605.5 (15%) max: 8778 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 97% 99% 94%
1267 Points (2%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 14% 100% 97% 99% 94%
2969 Points (5%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 24% 100% 97% 99% 94%
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1797 avg: 1813 median: 1812.5 (8%) max: 1828 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 28 W 100% 98%
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 8334 avg: 8500 median: 8500 (27%) max: 8666 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 28 W 100% 96%
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
3583 Points (36%)
min: 3357 avg: 3487 median: 3495 (35%) max: 3610 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
6937 Points (8%)
min: 5034 avg: 7595 median: 8582 (9%) max: 9169 Points
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3459 Points (47%)
3331 Points (45%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
6644 Points (16%)
8210 Points (20%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
min: 6766 avg: 6827 median: 6826.5 (12%) max: 6887 Points
min: 10423 avg: 11434 median: 11433.5 (20%) max: 12444 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
min: 2898 avg: 2925 median: 2925 (57%) max: 2952 Points
min: 3136 avg: 3249 median: 3248.5 (63%) max: 3361 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 7169 avg: 7279 median: 7279 (11%) max: 7389 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 3163 avg: 3190 median: 3190 (48%) max: 3217 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
7302 Points (59%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
5378 Points (49%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
8741 Points (17%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
7307 Points (15%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
7422 Points (19%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 487 avg: 493.5 median: 494 (1%) max: 499 ms
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 100% 100% 100%
min: 1396 avg: 1688 median: 1687.5 (2%) max: 1979 ms
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 101% 101% 101% 101%
min: 1193 avg: 1408 median: 1361 (2%) max: 1686 ms
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 101% 101% 101% 101%
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
115.9 ms (1%)
217.4 ms (2%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
93596 Points (82%)
min: 20430 avg: 22930 median: 22930 (20%) max: 25430 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 25 W 24% 100%
min: 20231 avg: 25163 median: 26482 (23%) max: 27727 Points
CPU TDP ? TDP 25 W 26% 100%
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
min: 261 avg: 263 median: 262.5 (75%) max: 266 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 98% 99% 98%
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 290 avg: 298.8 median: 300 (63%) max: 305 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 98% 95% 99%
142 Points (30%)
Model CPU GPU RAM Value Lenovo IdeaPad 330s-15ARR R7 2700U Vega 10 Chrome 8212 GB 142
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 47% 100% 98% 95% 99%
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 1605 avg: 1638 median: 1636 (63%) max: 1675 Points
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 97% 96% 100% 98%
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 35.5 avg: 41.3 median: 41.3 (7%) max: 47.1 Watt
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 102% 102% 100% 100%
25.5 Watt (4%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 104% 102% 102% 100% 100%
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 46.9 avg: 53.6 median: 53.5 (10%) max: 60.6 Watt
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 102% 103% 100% 100%
24 Watt (4%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 108% 102% 103% 100% 100%
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 4.69 avg: 6.5 median: 6.1 (4%) max: 9.22 Watt
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 103% 103% 101% 100%
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 3.84 avg: 5.3 median: 5.5 (6%) max: 6.47 Watt
CPU TDP 20 W TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 101% 103% 101% 100%
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
min: 25.8 avg: 27.6 median: 26.5 (20%) max: 30.5 Points per Watt
CPU TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 100% 87% 85%
12.8 Points per Watt (10%)
CPU TDP ? TDP 23 W TDP 25 W TDP 28 W 42% 100% 87% 85%
Average Benchmarks Intel Core i7-1365U → 100% n=10 Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 2200U → 34% n=10 Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 2700U → 49% n=10
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